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Post by twomanymontes on Jan 29, 2009 20:16:32 GMT -5
Well, Glad they let those things slide and it passed.
Those rear shocks are probably Gabriels, They were the common brand in the 70's-90's. Personally, if your going to replace all 4 shocks, I'd go with a set of Monroe Sensatracs, They seem to have the best control for cruising the streets.
As for the bearing noise, if there is up and down play that is normal to a degree. but if your hearing a whine back there, quite possibly the bearing is shot. When the time comes, I'll walk you through the repair, it's really easy, just a dirty job. The control arm bushing is a tad more complicated, it will need to be pressed in. Maybe look for a used arm?
Well, you have a nice prject to work on so Keep it up!
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Post by hetman on Jan 30, 2009 3:42:54 GMT -5
There is side to side play in the bearing. Yes, there's definite whining noise, which with the play makes me sure it's coming from the bearing, meaning it's worn and not just out of adjustment. Maybe he simply failed to grease it properly during his 25 year tenure? Heck, maybe the bearings and grease are all original, never having been replaced or regreased? It's possible. When I looked at the garbage in the master cylinder, the brake fluid may never have been replaced in its entire 35 years, as hard to believe as that sounds!! I'm going to open up the differential and check that out too and replace the fluid, though the previous owner said he did that 20 years ago.
There are no used control arms available here. Heck, there are only about 5-6 second generation Montes in Poland! And 3 of them are mine! A new set is in order, and I know that means more work. I'll paint the arms at the same time. A rebuild is a rebuild, and needs to be done properly. I'll just have to find the time, and get the parts. I've done bearings before; it is an easy job, as you say. But as you said, "get 'r done"! LOL.
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Post by twomanymontes on Jan 30, 2009 20:23:28 GMT -5
Mike, the rear end bearings are lubed with gear oil, there is no grease and bearing adjustments other than the pinion bearings and the side carrier and there done with shims. And yeah, the differential fluid may be shot. And if it was low or contaminated it could very well have not provided lube to the bearings and they burned up.
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Post by hetman on Feb 1, 2009 13:07:45 GMT -5
Dave, thanks for that information. I didn't know the rear bearings were lubricated by the differential fluid! From what I understand, I'll need new bearings, new seals and some shims? I guess kits are available?
By the way, since the car passed inspection, I was able to register it, which I did, along with the yellow 73, on Friday, at the special DMV for foreigners. Now they have consecutive numbered yellow (historical) plates. So, now I can go to step 17 - enjoy the Monte!! But first I have to repair this one, and wait for good weather. It's been snowing for 4 days now.
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Post by twomanymontes on Feb 1, 2009 14:36:52 GMT -5
Seals, Bearings and a crush collar come in a kit, the shims are already there, When you press/cut off the pinion bearings and the side carrier bearings, be sure to look for the shims, they are very thin and are almost impossible to replace these days.
Yeah Today was the first day above freezing in a month! I was hoping to uncover the SS and see if I could do anything, But I ended up putting shocks in my brothers truck and then stripping my son's old doors and getting them out of my garage.
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Post by hetman on Feb 3, 2009 11:34:22 GMT -5
Are KYB shocks any good? I've been looking at PST's website for suspension bushings and saw they sell KYB shocks as well. Since shipping is free there (to the US), I thought it might be worth looking into getting a lot of parts from them. I started a new thread in the Garage about this, but are their "polygraphite" bushings good enough to use in this application? Has anybody ever used them?
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Post by twomanymontes on Feb 4, 2009 18:59:08 GMT -5
KYB's are very good shocks, But Bilstein are the best!
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Post by x on Feb 9, 2009 23:57:54 GMT -5
By the way, since the car passed inspection, I was able to register it, which I did, along with the yellow 73, on Friday, at the special DMV for foreigners. Now they have consecutive numbered yellow (historical) plates. So, now I can go to step 17 - enjoy the Monte!! WOO HOO!!! Party time!!!!! *pauses* Uh, wait ... you wax that MC yet, Mike? Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ...RT 66 drive = Sept '09WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"The curves around midnight aren't easy to see" ... Rosanne Cash ... 'Runaway Train'
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Post by hetman on Feb 11, 2009 7:57:37 GMT -5
Ha ha ha ha . . . man you're funny!!! I haven't even gotten one second in the past few weeks to go out to the garage by my apartment to even look at the car, much less try to get some of the compounding and waxing done. With these two little monsters I have around the house, it looks like my schedule will be booked solid for the next 5-10 years!! They say having kids is the best thing in the world......well.....nevermind! LOL.
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Post by x on Feb 25, 2009 23:56:04 GMT -5
LOL! Hey, bud ... just trying to keep ya on your toes . Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ...W Grill meal = 02/28/09WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"Sometimes it feels like its all moving way too fast" ... Pat Benatar ... 'Shadows Of The Night'
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Post by hetman on Feb 26, 2009 4:25:24 GMT -5
Guess what, I still haven't had time to go out there and compound or wax it. But I did install a new hood pop up spring I got from Phil to replace the one that went missing during shipment. Sometimes progress is measured in inches, not miles... LOL
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Post by hetman on Mar 2, 2009 14:47:29 GMT -5
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Post by drix76 on Mar 2, 2009 23:39:50 GMT -5
Nice pics Mike! I've never actually seen a picture of you, is that you and the lady standing with the Monte? or am I waaaaay off? lol
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Post by hetman on Mar 3, 2009 4:12:29 GMT -5
Thanks, Mike. That skinny dude with his wife leaning on my 74 is the leader of the Lowriders here. They are visible, along with me in an orange shirt, in a picture of my white 73 in a different thread. The dude to the right is the one who filmed my white 73 when I first met these guys back in 2006, and that video is on you tube.
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Post by twomanymontes on Mar 3, 2009 19:32:37 GMT -5
Awesome pics, The Monte looks great and that Riv is sweet!
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Post by pazzo1969 on Mar 4, 2009 21:16:52 GMT -5
nice rides, glad it got through inspection. really nice to see those years of cars out and about
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Post by x on Mar 11, 2009 15:35:28 GMT -5
Sometimes progress is measured in inches, not miles... LOL *chuckles* Yeah, I'm going to leave that one alone, bud. COOL pics from that car gathering, Mike. I think I mentioned elsewhere (or not, I don't know...guess I'm still not feeling as good as I thought I was right now...lol) that I really like that Riviera . Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ...MidW Event = 04/04/09WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"Here today, forgot tomorrow" ... Duran Duran ... 'Ordinary World'
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Post by hetman on Mar 14, 2009 2:14:29 GMT -5
Cort, that was funny!
I love those boattails too, and though this one is rusted and who knows what under the recent repaint, it's still cool.
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Post by hetman on Mar 14, 2009 18:10:56 GMT -5
Well, tonight was another cruise with the local Lowriders, but it started at 8pm, and because of that (and the fact my memory stick was full in my camera), I don't have any pictures. But 10 cars showed up this time and we had a nice slow cruise through the city before stopping at our favorite American diner hangout called Pink Flamingo. So about two stoplights before the turnoff to the restaurant, a brand new Daytona (exactly like this one in every way www.flickr.com/photos/steve-brandon/433296991/ ) came up on us looking for some action. It was piloted by some young gangsters and it sounded mean. At the exact stoplight where we were all going to turn right, we lined up with the Daytona in the left lane, our Buick GS California in the middle lane, another one of our guys in the right lane and me in the far right lane. Instead of turning, I decided to go ahead and make his day, and gave it the gas. To my surprise, the Daytona wasn't able to pull away from my tail, and when I hit 2nd gear at about 60-70 mph, my Monte surged ahead and left him in the dust. At about 100 I let off and by that time he had given up. I went to the next gas station to turn around and join my mates for a late night bit to eat, and the Daytona came in and the guys in shock asked what I had and I replied, nothing much, just a stock 454 with highway gears. I love highway gears!! LOL. And to think that this car is way slower than my white 73... I'm still in shock that I blew away one of Detroit's finest, a new car, with an old heavy, out of shape Monte.
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Post by drix76 on Mar 14, 2009 22:34:39 GMT -5
Well, tonight was another cruise with the local Lowriders, but it started at 8pm, and because of that (and the fact my memory stick was full in my camera), I don't have any pictures. But 10 cars showed up this time and we had a nice slow cruise through the city before stopping at our favorite American diner hangout called Pink Flamingo. So about two stoplights before the turnoff to the restaurant, a brand new Daytona (exactly like this one in every way www.flickr.com/photos/steve-brandon/433296991/ ) came up on us looking for some action. It was piloted by some young gangsters and it sounded mean. At the exact stoplight where we were all going to turn right, we lined up with the Daytona in the left lane, our Buick GS California in the middle lane, another one of our guys in the right lane and me in the far right lane. Instead of turning, I decided to go ahead and make his day, and gave it the gas. To my surprise, the Daytona wasn't able to pull away from my tail, and when I hit 2nd gear at about 60-70 mph, my Monte surged ahead and left him in the dust. At about 100 I let off and by that time he had given up. I went to the next gas station to turn around and join my mates for a late night bit to eat, and the Daytona came in and the guys in shock asked what I had and I replied, nothing much, just a stock 454 with highway gears. I love highway gears!! LOL. And to think that this car is way slower than my white 73... I'm still in shock that I blew away one of Detroit's finest, a new car, with an old heavy, out of shape Monte. After I get my 76 rolling again, I'm going to go looking for a Daytona to eat. lol
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Post by twomanymontes on Mar 15, 2009 6:24:50 GMT -5
No excuses Mike!!!! Now Make sure those two little ones give you 50 lashes with a wet noodle! LOL!
Well, sounds like you got it running good, Those Daytonas are pretty quick for a 4000 LB car.
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Post by hetman on Mar 15, 2009 8:14:10 GMT -5
Well, sounds like you got it running good, Those Daytonas are pretty quick for a 4000 LB car. Actually, Dave, I haven't done diddly squat to the car; it just runs like a champ. I haven't checked the timing or anything. I had the previous owner put in new spark plugs and change the oil but that's it. The truth is that 454s are bad-ass!!! LOL. Montes kick royal a$$. I'm pretty sure my Monte weighs about 4200 lbs, so he's got a weight advantage on me and for all I've heard people praise those cars, I am thoroughly unimpressed. It just goes to show you how good old-school is. I went to a Daytona R/T forum or something like that and apparently they only made 1500 of those cars in that color, and with the "hemi" and all that new-fangled junk, it still SUCKS A$$ !!! LOL. I left him in the dust. Now I'd like to take the white 73 to the drag strip to see if it's a 12 second car or not, because they say those Daytonas run 13.9s stock, and my old 74 outran it by a wide margin, so the white 73 must be a lot faster.
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Post by twomanymontes on Mar 18, 2009 19:11:13 GMT -5
LOL! Get that thing tunes properly and see what she does! big blocks are funny, they can go either way. I've driven 454 Chevelles that I could beat on a 10 speed bicycle and then some that run like a raped ape! I guess it all depends on how the motor is set up.
And yeah, I want to see some time slips!!!
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Post by x on Mar 29, 2009 22:44:19 GMT -5
*grins devilishly* I try . I love those boattails too, and though this one is rusted and who knows what under the recent repaint, it's still cool. Yes, indeed. Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ...MidW Event = 04/04/09WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"I'll start running as fast as I can" ... Girls Next Door ... 'Slow Boat To China'
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Post by hetman on Mar 30, 2009 17:25:59 GMT -5
Cort, since you dropped in again, I have some news to report. I've been able to slip away from the family 4 times in the past 2 months to work on the Monte, but only for 2 hours at a time, so that means 8 hours total of detailing the paint, and so far I've gotten the trunk lid and rear done, the left rear quarter panel, and the left half of the roof and hood. You asked me long ago if I'd managed to wax it yet, and now I have some progress to report. Using the limited products at my disposal (sent to me by my parents from a military PX in Germany), I'm doing a comprehensive hand polishing of all exterior painted surfaces, using Turtle Wax polishing compound and carnauba wax. I also have a container of rubbing compound, but I wanted to start with the polishing compound to see if that's all I needed. So far the polishing has done a good job of cutting through the oxidized layer of paint, and the wax of course gives a nice shine and protective layer to it, so that the paint looks really nice now, and the color is deeper and richer, from the oils and wax. I surmise the paint hasn't been waxed in a good 10 years (when the car was put away); it's so oxidized. Worse, it's got irreparable damage in the form of spider web cracking on the roof, hood and trunk lid, giving a rough to the touch surface. While I can't fix that, I can preserve what I have, and that's what I'm doing. Since the car is in the garage (and I can do only one side at a time due to space issues), I haven't been able to check out how it looks in daylight or in the sun. I'll get some pics when it's done. Another thing I've noticed is remains of some kind of blow-out from the radiator, I guess, because the paint is damaged from some kind of caustic material that looks like it landed on the hood and mainly roof at high speed, leaving minute long streaks in the paint. This is hard to see, but it's there. In any case, I'm happy to be able to do what I can to rescue this original paint. I'm pretty satisfied that the original paint is still on the car, more or less undamaged, and it doesn't absolutely need to be repainted at this time. Of course, it's not a show car, but a "survivor" and I want to keep that as long as possible.
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