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Post by hetman on Dec 24, 2008 7:41:07 GMT -5
Posted September 27, 2007: The post below is from two different threads that I originally started on another forum. The first is when I introduce the car in February 2007, and the next is after I picked it up from the port in Gdynia, Poland, and drove it home to Warsaw, one month ago. Hope you like the stories! Greetings! I've been a member nearly a year, and thanks to the nice people here and information and advice available here, I decided to buy a 4th generation Monte Carlo. This text below comes from my thread in the Lounge entitled "Honeymoon Roadtrip..." and is still visible. The road trip was planned around the Monte Carlo, so it is the hero of our honeymoon, and here's its story. Greetings, folks! I'd like to introduce y'all to my wife, my 1984 Monte Carlo, and share some experiences of our honeymoon trip, where we made it through four states and over 1600 miles in about two weeks, despite almost overwhelming odds. First let me back up a bit. I have been residing in Eastern Europe for a while, and about a year ago I got this wild idea to buy a 3rd or 4th generation Monte Carlo for a hot rod project, so I started looking on ebay, and I found my car in McComb, Mississippi from a seller by the name of Dave Ellis (blueellison on ebay). To make a long story short, he jacked me around and grossly misrepresented the car, and my friend in Natchez who agreed to make the arrangements for me was also remarkably unable to see the faults in the car, so trusting his advice, I bought the car, which I thought was a well-cared for daily driver with a new 350, and mechanically sound, etc. By the time I got it titled, it cost me around $1500. My goal has been to ship the car to Europe, but the car was sitting at my friend Rick's house outside Natchez since July. Enter Ewa (pronounced Eh-vah), my lovely bride, from Poland. We've been trying to get married for over 6 months, but due to Poland's famous and inane bureaucracy, we haven't been able to get permission. So she finally acquiesced to come to the States to get hitched, and we made our plans around a whirlwind tour of the South, arranging to visit friends and family, sight-see, and tie the knot in Panama City. And the linchpin of the whole trip was a working car, and so I naturally built our plans around the faithful Monte I'd just bought. Arriving January 28th in New Orleans, we stayed two nights at a friend's house and were picked up on the 30th by Rick, and delivered to his old home "Woodwinds" on the Natchez Trace, where I got to see my car for the first time. After a cursory look at the car, I noticed the left rear quarter window was broken plexiglass, so I duct-taped it up. I didn't notice at the time that it leaked from every window (the car had been sitting under a carport). We experienced no rain till almost the last days of our trip, so I didn't have to duct tape all the windows till then. I was beginning to feel like a real redneck, though I doubt real rednecks would be seen in such a car. Regardless, I was hoping it was mechanically sound. I took it for a small test drive and noticed the transmission was not only slipping really bad, but emitting smoke from the engine compartment after a short drive, and also the whole underside was coated with transmission fluid. Not a good sign, I thought, and the next day took it to a transmission shop in Natchez (sorry I don't know the name offhand), where a gentleman by the name of Lloyd told me he wouldn't even be able to look at it till the following week. Almost in desperation, I asked if he happened to have any other TH350s in stock, and he said he did have a rebuilt one waiting for a customer for 6 months, and since the customer had kept him waiting so long, he decided to let me have it, as a cash customer, and he'd be able to get me in that day, and he even gave me a break from the original $1000 to $800. I considered myself lucky, though this meant the allocation of a significant amount of my honeymoon money, and my fiancee also wasn't impressed with the car yet! Since the shop built racing transmissions and races a 9-second Mustang, I felt in good hands, and they did the work, having it ready the next day. The smoke had been a clogged dipstick tube or something like that, but that old TH350 was a goner. Now I had a good one, and the difference was remarkable. Not over the hump yet. I noticed some other things with the car: the right door wouldn't lock from the outside. The entire interior was wasted, and the rear-view mirror was off. The hood wouldn't stay open, or even shut properly. No ventilation or AC at all. The gas gauge didn't work, nor did the ampmeter or engine oil pressure. The engine temp gauge did work sometimes, however. Also, the radiator leaked, but a can of stop-leak fixed it for a while. Also, all the lugnuts were locking nuts, and I didn't have the key!! I had to have that fixed, so the next day I went back into Natchez and had Auto Zone take all them off (not an easy task) and replace them. At this point, we found out that most of the rear studs needed replacing, which I had done. I also replaced one worn-out wheel and balanced them all. I bought a whole bunch of tools at Sears, then felt I was ready to hit the road, with a spare full gas can in the trunk.... After doing a tour of Natchez, we left on Saturday the 3rd, but not for Memphis, where we'd planned to go, but to Pensacola because we had a wedding date of February 8 in Panama City, and thought that if anything happened on the road, we might not have time to get the car fixed, so better skip some of the sight-seeing and head for the wedding chapel!! We made it to my brother's place in Gulf Breeze without incident, well, except that the steering pump hardly worked by this time, so I simply tightened up the bolt (no AC compressor or place to tighten down the pump properly, so the 2 bolts had worked themselves loose). I also noticed a small oil drip from the fuel pump, but at least there was no gas leak.... . After a few days there, we moved on to my cousin's place in Lynn Haven, whereupon I noticed after sitting a day, the car had developed a pretty significant oil-down from the transmission. I tightened up all the pan bolts, and the tranny never leaked again. Whew, what a relief! However, upon starting the car, I noticed the radiator had sprung a leak again. Off to buy a new radiator! The install was simple and fixed the problem, and that's good because after that the temp gauge failed completely. Anyway, the day after I fixed the radiator, we had a beautiful wedding, and my parents and some other family members were able to make it. The weather also was picture-perfect, and Ewa enjoyed the whole ceremony. Next, we were off to Old Town, Florida, to visit my aunt (unfortunately, my uncle passed away a few weeks prior to this so I was unable to see him). We left the 9th, about 6pm, for the 200 mile trip through the Apalachicola National Forest on Highway 20 and 267. This is one very deserted path!! And guess what? The car started to vibrate worse and worse. I couldn't figure out what the problem might be, since I thought the tires were good. I thought it might even be the left front wheel bearing going bad (In Natchez they'd told me it was slightly worn, along with all the front steering components). I slowed it down from 60 to 45 and rode like that for an hour and a half, till it started vibrating worse, right before Perry. It being about 10pm by this time, I figured it best to stop for the night in a motel and see what I could do the next morning. So Saturday the 10th we woke up early, went to AutoZone and got a referral to a good tire shop, Armstrong Tires, where they set me up with 4 used but near-new tires. This, fortunately, fixed that problem, though the car still shook a bit between 50-65mph. We were almost "home"!! And in fact, we had no problems with the car thereafter, and made it back to New Orleans on the 13th without further ado. Only at my aunt's place was Ewa able to finally relax for a bit. And I'm sure the stress of an unreliable car caused her (and me!) much more agony than she'd anticipated. However, overall she liked the trip, and now we're happily married!! See, the Monte Carlo wasn't such a bad decision after all!! And it still awaits transport to Europe, so please keep your fingers crossed for it and us. Here are a few pictures for your entertainment: The dogs got to the car before I could! My Monte in front of Springfield Plantation, the first brick structure built west of the Appalachian Mountains, 1791, also site of marriage of President Jackson in 1791, just off the Natchez Trace. The Monte proudly "representin' it"...LOL...in downtown Perry, Florida. Some shots of my car at my aunt's place outside Old Town, Florida.
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Post by hetman on Dec 24, 2008 7:44:44 GMT -5
"Fell in love with my Monte all over again!!" Well, that might not be hard to believe, but if you knew the condition of my car, you wouldn't be too surprised. Y'all can check out the thread about my car in the "my SS" forum on this site and see what I'm talking about. Anyhow, I'll do a quick recap. I hadn't seen my car since my bride and I took it on a honeymoon trip in January/February this year. We live in Warsaw, Poland, and I had a nightmare of a time to get the car over here, partially because I was hurried and couldn't find a good shipper, so the company I chose (shippinginternational.com) turned out to be a really unprofessional outfit and they really did a lot to destroy my car. They picked up the car from my friend's house in New Orleans on May 1, and trucked it to New York to be loaded onto a container and shipped to Gdynia, Poland. It sat in NY for nearly three months and finally arrived here a couple days ago, much worse for the wear. They managed to lose the keys and the registration (fortunately not the title, however), and at some point someone took out the valve stems from all the wheels so they were all flat when I went to pick it up, necessitating a trip to a parts store to buy the valves, whereupon my father in law used his 12V air compressor to pump up the tires. One tire had become unseated, so I put on the spare. Apparently someone went completely through the interior (ripping out seats and side panels) for who knows whatever reason, leaving the interior even worse than when I left it (I didn't know that was even possible!). They stole everything in the car, including my gas/service booklet, cheap ballpoint pen, and wrench used to tighten down the battery cables. So at the port I had to use an ill-fitting metric wrench, after which the battery still wouldn't turn the engine, so we replaced it with a brand new one I had brought with me. Then the engine turned over beautifully and started right up. Then the next problem reared its ugly head: the transmission linkage had been ripped out of the transmission, I suppose to be able to move the car around since they had lost the keys. It wasn't easy getting that fixed, since I had no spare bolts lying around. I eventually took one from the radiator cover, and it fit and I was able to drive the car out of the hangar. Let's see - what other damage did they do? They apparently abused the poor car getting it into the container, since the front left fender was dented in at the bottom, and I also noticed plenty of mean scars on the underside, steering components, etc. I can't imagine what they did to that poor Monte. And it looked so ill and abused the dock workers were surprised that it got out on its own power. So, after the formalities of getting it released from customs, I got in, filled up and drove it nearly 300 miles back home to Warsaw. At first I took it real easy, since the car hadn't been driven in a long time, but after nearly 2 hours, I got tired of being the last in lines of 20-30 cars on a 2-lane road, and started passing cars. This continued all the way home, and I found that the Monte really came into its own, like I'd forgotten it was able to. With the comfort of a full frame and the power of a 350, I was able to pass any and every car with relative ease, and though many new cars tried to keep up or even pass me, I left all of them in the dust. I'm talking about hundreds and hundreds of cars and trucks, including new Mercedeses and BMWs. None could keep up with me. It was such an awesome feeling! A feeling of safety, in fact, because the lack of power can get you into real trouble on the extremely dangerous roads of Poland, where truckers routinely perform myriad dangerous stunts such as trying to run you off the road. It really is a jungle over here, but the Monte proved its worthiness, and I must say I was overjoyed to have it back. Here are some pictures of the car at port and later at home. Road Warrior, welcome home!! A few other notes: It seems that 98% of all the cars being imported were wrecked/totalled out cars. And no doubt they will soon end up on Poland's version of ebay as "original, unwrecked" cars. Anyway, I have yet to see another Monte Carlo over here, except for one 1979 that I tried to buy last year. The owner balked, screwed me over and sold it to someone else, and that's why I bought this car, to serve as a hot rod. I have seen a couple other G bodies, namely a similar Cutlass, and some earlier Rivieras, but no other Montes. Incidentally, along the road home, I got tons of stares, waves, people asking me questions on the road as well as stops, etc. The car is extremely cool, and many people knew what it was and were very happy to get a chance to see one live. By the way, I will never use a consolidated container service again. This car might be close to junk but there's no reason to damage it further. I was very pissed about the way it was treated. Next time I'm going to use a roll on/roll off service and no container. Speaking of next time, if there's interest over here, I'll buy more cars and ship them over here. But then I'll need some trustworthy folks on that side to make sure I get a quality ride and not some wasted piece of junk. Plus I'm going to need some reliable parts sources. But that's all in the future. For now I'm happy my Monte's home with me and tearing up the streets of Warsaw.... Later in that thread, I was asked a few questions: Originally Posted By: Scott_86SS Mike, how did you find yourself living in Warsaw? Congrats on getting your Monte back. Sorry to hear about the damage, though. Unfortunately, it's a risk you take when shipping a car. I got lucky that my SS was handled professionally on its journey from NC in May. Scott, I just hopped on a plane 10 years ago, when I was young and wet behind the ears, and went searching for adventure and challenges. I thought that after the Iron Curtain fell there would be plenty of both in the east-bloc states, and I haven't been disappointed! Sometimes it's hard to bear, sometimes I'm homesick, but otherwise I'm making out OK as an English teacher. I could only last so many years without that good ol' American muscle, so I decided to get with it and get another Monte (after my 73 was stolen in Huntsville in 1994), and bring it over here. Indeed it is one of my goals to show these folks that there is life after 2.0 liters!! LOL...I want to make a hot rod Polish car and that's what this Monte is for, that's why I'm not overly disappointed with the body damage. Live and learn. I'm going a different route when I ship my new 73 over here, and that'd d**n better not be messed up!! Originally Posted By: Scott_86SS Good on ya. Glad it's everything you were looking for. Show the Eastern Bloc what American muscle is all about. How about a 5.7L Traubi? Well, Scott, I didn't say I loved all that leftover communism...hahaha, but life over here is definitely "interesting". I've actually seen a picture of a small block in a Trabi (in Hot Rod mag about 10 years ago, I think), but the engine was inside the car (a station wagon) and it wasn't exactly a sleeper, which is the look I'm going for. Here's the car I'm talking about, an FSO Polonez (the mint green one is mine, with 10,000 miles on it, but the red one in the background to the left is going to be the donor car for the Monte. Originally Posted By: bigkat sorry to hear about the troubles, but im sure that ride home was FUN. i would probably be so livid i wouldnt be able to talk when i saw it, glad to see you're not like me haha. i bet you feel like your driving a tank compared to the local cars. Yeah, the ride home was totally fun, Kat! I was really amazed at the Monte's capabilities, and I haven't even begun to soup it up yet; it's just a standard crate engine with a Holley and headers. But great day it's fast. I can't wait till I build my hot rod.... ;D Originally Posted By: PB86SS/87LS Great story. Maybe I missed out but whats the reason you moved to Poland? Must be somewhat surreal to drive a car like a Monte or see one over there. I wonder if its easy finding basic parts for repairs? I think I briefly mentioned it, but since I'm an Army brat, having lived all over the world in my life, I thought I'd seek my fortune in Eastern Europe due to the once in a lifetime changes occuring there after 1989. So I bought a one way ticket, brought a couple thousand bucks and a few ounces of gold with me and simply came over, and haven't looked back since. I had no job, didn't know the language and didn't know anyone, but I like adventure and challenge and that's what I've been getting ever since. I miss a lot of things but as y'all can see, I'm doing my best to bring over some of those missing items (a nice car...LOL). I've always wanted a hot rod and I figured what better way to show the Poles what a real car should be like than to take the Monte and make a hot rod out an antique communist car. Talk about the surprise factor - I love that idea and I can't wait to do it. The Monte is one of the best American cars made and that's why I chose it. For all you orthodox Monte lovers, please accept my apologies in advance for "adulterating" this car, but in fact I saved it from the junkyard and thought this idea of mine would at least give it a new lease on life, in the form of a Polish sleeper hot rod. Yesterday I went under the car to fix the transmission linkage, but found out there wasn't anything wrong with it. The problem is that the shippers mutilated the left header and now it blocks the full travel of the shift linkage out of the transmission. What a bunch of $&*#@^%$&^*s!!!! Plus I found more damage under the car; the floorplan is all dented up from the forklift, and the frame is also scratched up. Originally Posted By: Z16 WOW, talk about a nightmare. I feel the pain you went through. Now that you have the ride home prep it up better...Good luck! Thank you, sir! You're absolutely right; now that it's home I've been looking at it, playing with it, dreaming about modifications, fixing it up slowly, etc. Generally, just glad it's home where I can have it and drive it. It's been away so long!!
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Post by hetman on Dec 24, 2008 7:47:38 GMT -5
Posted May 5, 2008: Well, after much thought and debate, I think I'm going to go the restoration route on this Monte. Not that it has sentimental value, or anything. You all know that I bought it with the express intention of scavenging the frame and mechanical parts for a hot rod project. But since that idea is really far from realization (realistically, at least 5 years away due to my other projects as well as kids and a house I want to build), I might as well keep it as a runner, and that would entail fixing it up, first of all mechanically (steering and suspension) to pass inspection, and then repainting to protect the seams that are exposed. This will mean an evolving project with the end goal being a completely restored and stock car (of course, in no way will I keep the mechanicals or suspension stock). But I will need to locate and replace all the damaged trim pieces, dry-rotted plastic panels, wasted rubber, and completely redo the interior. This is a lot more work than I had envisioned, but must be done to save the car. I had no intention of doing this when I bought the car, and that's why I sought out an abused car because I had no need of the interior or body. But I didn't want a rust bucket (needed a solid frame) so I picked a rust-free Southern car. My problem is always buying cars too nice to part out. I did this with a Polonez once a few years ago; I bought a 1981 (the green one visible in my 73 thread) with 30,000 miles on it to restore a 1978 (first year of production, very early serial number), but the parts car was so d**n nice I couldn't cut it up. Now the Monte is the same. I don't have the heart to cut it up because it's completely rust free and accident free, and mechanically outstanding. Too many pluses to destroy it. Besides, it's nearly an antique and as we all know, Montes are cool cars. So I'm going to start gathering parts for the restoration, and God knows I'll need help with that. Just the idea of replacing the dash is intimidating, since they usually cost hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for nice ones. I might simply remove it and fabricate a nice one out of walnut or something because I think they're ugly anyway. But anyway, that's where I'm at now with my thought process for this 84 SC CL.
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Post by hetman on Dec 24, 2008 7:48:39 GMT -5
Posted September 6, 2008: Today I uncovered the Honeymoon Wagon and awakened it from its deep sleep. I hadn't started it in about 4-5 months, if I recall. After connecting the battery and pouring some gas down the carb, it started right up and purred like a kitten. OK, maybe more like a baby tiger... It runs great, sounds great. Then I proceeded to clean out and vacuum the interior and trunk. I realized that I'd never done this before! I simply never had the time to clean the interior. Not that I did a complete job this time, but I took some satisfaction in a cleaned up car. It's still ragged-out, stained, torn, ripped, molested, cracked to hell and dirty, but now it looks much better. I felt good about that! The first steps toward restoring the car down the line. Way down the line. But first I need to winterize it, so I moved it a couple feet to the left so I could access the right side and take off the wheels for the winter. This I did, and jacked up the car, took off all the wheels and cleaned them, and put some cement blocks under the frame in four places in order to put less stress on the suspension and tires. I know it's just the beginning of September, and still summer, but it could be snowing in 4 weeks. Here are some pics: I'm still looking for trim pieces for the outside of the car. I particularly need the wheelwell moldings, the front lower fender trim, rear window molding, left quarter window and rear light assemblies or just lenses. All must be in NOS or excellent used condition. Thanks!
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Post by hetman on Dec 24, 2008 7:50:08 GMT -5
Posted December 2, 2008: First of all, I'd like to take a moment to give a huge THANK YOU to Thomas (tmos87) for his help in getting me some parts. I've tried many avenues to get some trim pieces for this car, and Tom came through for me to help me get a set of lower body trim for this Monte from an ebay auction. The seller would not sell to me, so Tom volunteered to buy it, take delivery of it, and package it again and send to me here in Poland. I really appreciate your help, Tom. You're a great guy and the whole world (or at least our forum...LOL) needs to know. Here are some pictures of the set of trim I unpacked today after a long and tortuous journey. My son woke up as I was examining the goods, and promptly ran in and assessed the situation, and proceeded to "help" me pack it back up. He just turned 18 months a couple days ago. And after checking to make sure I did a good job putting it all back in the box, he had to check out all the front end parts I got from Napa a month ago on my stateside trip. Let me tell you, it was no easy task getting this stuff back home, with the recent reduction in weight allowances by the airlines, from 70 lbs to 50 lbs per bag. One of my duffle bags was a few ounces shy of 50 lbs, but the other I couldn't slim down, so faced a $150 penalty since it was just under the 70 lbs limit. Fortunately, I went to the airport with my brother who was in full uniform, so they thought I was in the military too, and waved the overweight bag charge on that duffle bag. So I go through with these parts in the heavy bag, and a bunch of tools in the other one. I had to end up sending my 850 car die cast collection by mail, unfortunately, and that cost over $700. Inflation hurts!! PS: thanks also to Brian for making sure my parts buy list was complete...(though it's never really complete...LOL).
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Post by x on Dec 24, 2008 9:57:27 GMT -5
Grrr....I want a Honeymoon Wagon! Lookin' good, Mike! Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ...Chitown #2 = 07/25/09WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"Maybe next year I'll give it to someone...special" ... WHAM! ... 'Last Christmas'
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Post by hetman on Dec 24, 2008 19:38:28 GMT -5
Cort, you have plenty of Honeymoon Wagon material, even much better than mine!! LOL All you have to do is move over here and bring them with you. Polish girls won't disappoint you!
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Post by x on Dec 25, 2008 2:29:19 GMT -5
*raises eyebrow* Hmmm...that is tempting .
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Post by twomanymontes on Dec 26, 2008 20:50:32 GMT -5
LOL! That poor car! I can't wait to see it restored!
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Post by hetman on Dec 27, 2008 15:32:42 GMT -5
*raises eyebrow* Hmmm...that is tempting . He who hesitates is lost, young man! And you're not getting any younger... ;D I'll keep the light on for you, my friend!
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Post by x on Dec 31, 2008 0:48:09 GMT -5
*raises eyebrow* Hmmm...that is tempting . He who hesitates is lost, young man! And you're not getting any younger... ;D I'll keep the light on for you, my friend! LOL! Glad to know the light is on.... And, I'm always lost...lol. As for not getting any younger, I've aged more than anyone I know...he he. Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ...RT 66 drive = Sept '09WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"I can't remember who I was back then" ... Tim McGraw ... 'Red Ragtop'
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Post by hetman on Dec 31, 2008 13:11:18 GMT -5
So I can make preparations for your arrival next summer, right?! Be sure to bring a good camera because you won't believe, and won't want to forget, all the goodies over here...
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Post by x on Jan 8, 2009 1:28:54 GMT -5
LOL! *sighs* If only I had the vacation time ... I'd be there for sure. Course, ya know ... you could always come here. After all, I can't bring my MCs with me over there . Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ...Chitown #2 = 07/25/09WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"There was something in the country that he said he couldn't leave" ... John Denver & Emmylou Harris ... 'Wild Montana Skies'
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Post by hetman on Feb 7, 2010 18:00:08 GMT -5
Here's the Honeymoon Wagon two days ago:
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Post by x on Feb 7, 2010 18:44:37 GMT -5
Oh my ... it has just a little bit of snow on it. LOL. I have a pic somewhere of my '81 MC SC, back when Mom and Dad still owned it and my sister was driving it ... where a huge snowfall along with winds making snow drifts make the car look like an Aerocoupe! Cort | 36swm.IL | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker * my radio show.03/13/10 *WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"I can't stop grinning" ... Shelly West ... 'Jose Cuervo'
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Post by twomanymontes on Feb 8, 2010 22:30:07 GMT -5
LOL! My 01 looks simular right now!
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Post by hetman on May 26, 2010 1:55:17 GMT -5
Folks, due to lack of time and space and money to restore this car properly, I've decided to revert back to my original plan and use it as a donor car for its frame and mechanicals. After uncovering it last week, it looks like the roof frame around the windshield is a bit rusted and that is a bit more trouble than I want to get involved in. Not to mention that the sunroof is poorly done and it leaks there too. So a new roof is in order, and trying to ship one from the US is a bit cost-prohibitive for me. Of course I'd need an all new interior too, along with a dash, steering wheel, etc. Plus paint and some minor body work. It would be cheaper for me to find and import a nice Monte to start with. Like Termite's 1986 Monte Carlo SS aerocoupe that finally sold for around $8000 (which I wanted to buy, but didn't have the room). Anyway, I still really want to make a hot rod Polonez and this car is ideal for that project. And I'll save more room by getting rid of one car (making two into one). That project I'll be ready to start on within a month, so by winter time I should have the Monte disassembled and I can start on the frame (sandblasting, reinforcing and painting) and installing the new front end. The brakes are already awesome, so no work needed there, and besides I'm limited to 15" rims or perhaps 16" at the most, due to the smaller wheelwells of the Polonez, so I can't upgrade the front brakes anyhow. And I'll need to buy a new axle that is a bit narrower and much stronger (thinking of a custom 9" which can be had for around 2 grand), and I want an excellent 5 or 6 speed manual in this beotch. So I have some work ahead of me, but measurements show the engine will fit in (with electric fans) the Polonez's engine bay. The hardest part will be prepping its underside to fit onto the Monte's frame. Anyway, that's what the situation looks like at present. To all the Monte purists, I'm sorry, but this one will live on in heart and spirit. Here's the subject vehicle, a mint original 1987 FSO Polonez with 11,000 original miles on it and the factory plastic foil still on the carpets. It's about the same size and shape as an old Escort:
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Post by twomanymontes on May 26, 2010 19:22:34 GMT -5
Well, Sorry to har that one is a gonner too, But atleast she'll be getting a facelift soon!!!
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Post by drix76 on May 26, 2010 20:04:18 GMT -5
I sure miss that ol yellow thing in the background, its good to see its still there ... how ya been Mike? I havent been around for a while or gotten to keep in touch with you, or the rest of the forum.
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Post by x on Jun 9, 2010 20:20:35 GMT -5
To all the Monte purists, I'm sorry, but this one will live on in heart and spirit. NO need to apologize, Mike. At least this one will be a willing donor for a cool project. Still ... sorry to see this one go, too . Cort | 36.m.IL | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker * 07/24/2010=ChitownMeet #3 *MCs.Caprice | models.HO.legos.CHD.RadioShows | RTs.us66 = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"I didn't mean to take away your dreams" ... Hootie & The Blowfish ... 'Only Lonely'
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Post by hetman on Jun 10, 2010 15:29:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies, folks! Mike, thanks, I've been doing well (and unbelievably busy!!) and I hope you have too. I miss your posts and contact with you. Write me sometime!! LOL. Sorry but I sold your Monte the day after that picture was taken; please see my other thread. Dave and Cort, I will miss this Monte and honestly, it would have taken a whole lot of work and time and money to get it into the shape it deserves, and I would have bought a nicer one to begin with had I planned to keep a 4th gen in my collection; there have been some awesome cars available over the last few years, and at great prices too. I'm not ruling out getting a nicer one in the future, but it's not in the cards at the moment. I do like them more now that I've owned the Honeymoon Wagon; I think they're cool and sharp looking cars that are amazingly fast due to their smaller size. So don't count me out on being a 4th gen owner in the future.
And to the point - that's why I selected this car 4 years ago and brought it over here. I wanted a rust-free car with good mechanicals as a base for this hot rod, and that's what I have. The body is also nearly rust-free, being from Mississippi and never seeing salt or snow. But to attempt a full restoration would tax even Tmos' skills and patience! LOL. So I have what I wanted for a donor car and I do know of some people....Tony the Saw, for example....ahem.... who have mercilessly cut up many Montes in much better shape than this one. As I wrote earlier upon actually getting a chance to drive this beast and explore its phenomenal capabilities, I am really impressed with 4th generation Montes, especially with a 350. It is unbelievably fast already. Scary fast, and I'm talking at speeds deep into the triple digits (MPH, not kilometers/hour). And the brakes work fantastically. So I am really impressed with its capabilities, and to think that I'm going to shed at least 500 lbs, and then later add hundreds of HP to the package, I don't think I've ever driven a car with that kind of supercar specs. I want to do a real American thing - build a hot rod. Wish me luck! LOL
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Post by x on Jun 20, 2010 21:39:35 GMT -5
I do like them more now that I've owned the Honeymoon Wagon; I think they're cool and sharp looking cars that are amazingly fast due to their smaller size. So don't count me out on being a 4th gen owner in the future. Cool. And, the memories you have of and in and with the Honeymoon Wagon are more special/priceless than the car itself. Cort | 36.m.IL | 5 Monte Carlos.1 Caprice Classic | pig valve.pacemaker MCs.CC | models.HO.legos.CHD.RadioShows | RoadTrips.us66 = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"You don't know what you have 'til your everything is gone" ... Blessid Union of Souls ... 'I Wanna Be There'
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Post by hetman on Nov 13, 2010 8:34:15 GMT -5
I do like them more now that I've owned the Honeymoon Wagon; I think they're cool and sharp looking cars that are amazingly fast due to their smaller size. So don't count me out on being a 4th gen owner in the future. Cool. And, the memories you have of and in and with the Honeymoon Wagon are more special/priceless than the car itself. Cort | 36.m.IL | 5 Monte Carlos.1 Caprice Classic | pig valve.pacemaker MCs.CC | models.HO.legos.CHD.RadioShows | RoadTrips.us66 = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"You don't know what you have 'til your everything is gone" ... Blessid Union of Souls ... 'I Wanna Be There' So true, Cort! But everytime I see this car, I seem to have great affection for it. And who can say that 4th gen. Montes aren't cool looking? I don't know when this project is going to sprout legs, since a lot depends on my ability to have a place to do it, and since the cars are at my father-in-law's property, I have to sort of depend on him to be available. It sucks not having my own garage at my own house. And just after moving this Monte into my garage at his house, we had an (temporary - several months now) argument and now we're not talking, so this project, which was supposed to be underway already, is stillborn as yet. Who knows, by the time we get to talking again, I might have changed my mind and want to restore this car! LOL. Here are pictures of it in the garage. Meantime, I invested in a welder and 20 ton press and other shop equipment, taking away space in the garage, so the donor Polonez is outside under a cover where the Monte has been sitting for over 3 years. ...and the youngest Monte lover in the family, Christian!
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Post by x on Nov 23, 2010 2:06:00 GMT -5
So true, Cort! But everytime I see this car, I seem to have great affection for it. And who can say that 4th gen. Montes aren't cool looking? ... Who knows, by the time we get to talking again, I might have changed my mind and want to restore this car! LOL. *grins* That wouldn't be a bad thing, ya know . lol ...and the youngest Monte lover in the family, Christian! Ohhhhhhhh....what an awesome pic. My nephew is now 2 ... can hardly believe it! Cort | 37.m.IL.pigValve.pacemaker | 5 Monte Carlos + 1 Caprice Classic | * Chicagoland Meets, 2011?MCs.CC + CHD.models.HO.legos.RadioShows + RoadTrips.us66 = www.chevyasylum.com/cort"I'm taking a chance" ... Lifehouse ... 'First Time'
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